Which Oppo player is best for my new Samsung LCD?

[shyguy3763]

Just bought the Samsung LN-S4052D and I''d like to add the Oppo 971,would that be my best bet? My new TV has HDMI,put the DVD player doesn''t, I think there shouldn''t be a problem,right? Is the 981 a better choice for me? Here are the TV specs<BR><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><BR>

[-B-]

IIRC, doesn''t the Oppo player come included with the DVI to HDMI cable? <br>

[GreatDane]

<div>The Oppo OPDV971H seems to be an excellent choice.</div><BR><div>&nbsp;</div><BR><div><a title=OPDV971H href="http://oppodigital.com/opdv971h.html">OPDV971H</a></div><BR><div>&nbsp;</div><BR><div><a title="DVD Benchmark highest score ever" href="http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&amp;articles=all">DVD Benchmark highest score ever</a></div><BR><div>&nbsp;</div><BR><div>The 981 is newer than the 971 and&nbsp;I don''t think it''s been tested yet. If it''s just as good video wise, for an extra $30 to play more formats&nbsp; it would be worth it.</div><BR>

[shyguy3763]

<div>The reason I ask is I contacted oppodigital and was told that the 981 would be my best choice because as stated by oppo..." You will want to use the DV-981HD product, as this will do a 1:1 pixel<br>matching with your LCD display at 1080p through the HDMI input. This<br>will produce the best picture out of all of our DVD players..."<br><br>Well I was wondering wouldn''t the 971 do a 1:1 pixel match?</div><BR>

[MDRiggs]

It could be that the 981 can provide 1080p output whereas the 971 tops out at 1080i. If your TV can accept a 1080p input (not all 1080p sets can), that would eliminate the need for the display to deinterlace 1080i from the player.<BR>

[jstwong]

MDRiggs is correct that the 971H only outputs HD at 1080i and 720p.&nbsp; From what I understand, the new 981 will output 1080p.&nbsp; However, I do not believe your listed display will accept a 1080p input.<BR>

[MDRiggs]

Should have done this sooner: I just looked up the LN-S4052D, and it appears to be a 1,366 x 768 display. Unless the player you choose can scale directly to that resolution (most can''t), you probably will find that you get best results by sticking with just good deinterlacing to 480p. Then the signal will get scaled just once, from 480p to 1,366 x 768. If the player scales to 720p (1,280 x 720) or 1080i/p (1,920 x 1,080)&nbsp;as well, the signal will wind up getting scaled twice, first in the player and then again in the TV, which is more likely to make things worse than better. (Worst-case scenario is actually 1080i output, since that would require deinterlacing again as well as a second round of scaling.)<BR>

[shyguy3763]

Well I already recieved my 971 before I had the chance to read that last post,I hope this player isn''t overkill for the capabilities of&nbsp; my LCD, maybe the 970 would have been a better choice?&nbsp; <br><BR>

[Jomari]

<div>remember, oppo digital has a 30 day return policy. you within the area? mountain view, CA? find out. try it for a few days, see how it works out for you. if your not truly satisfied with it, you can always return it to em and get the 70. to be honest? i like both of em. heck i got the 970 because its my pjs native format. nonetheless, give em a call first, before you fire it up, then see how it goes. pm me if you need any help.</div><BR><div>&nbsp;</div><BR><div>congratulations, welcome aboard the oppo battleship sailor.</div><BR>

[Barney]

<div>Doesn't look like overkill to me. Have the DVD player output 720P..........your LCD should love it...<br>Also, you mentioned 1:1 mapping.....that is only wanted if the hardware is outputing 1080P &amp; the display can receive 1080P &amp; display 1080P. Some 1080P displays do too much overscan &amp; loose about 2% of the picture.<br></div><BR>

[MDRiggs]

<BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE BORDER=1><TR><TD><b>Date:</b> 12/23/2006 6:49:19 PM <b>Author:</b> Barney<BR><div>Doesn''t look like overkill to me. Have the DVD player output 720P..........your LCD should love it...</TD></TR></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></div><BR><div>It''s not a 720p display. Probably doesn''t matter much, but I would send it 480p to avoid the double-scaling.</div><BR>

[Barney]

<BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE BORDER=1><TR><TD><b>Date:</b> 12/29/2006 6:29:40 PM <b>Author:</b> MDRiggs <b>Date:</b> 12/23/2006 6:49:19 PM <b>Author:</b> Barney<BR><div>Doesn''t look like overkill to me. Have the DVD player output 720P..........your LCD should love it...</TD></TR></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></div><BR><div>It''s not a 720p display. Probably doesn''t matter much, but I would send it 480p to avoid the double-scaling.</div><BR><div></div><BR><div>&nbsp;</div><BR><div>MDRiggs, please explain, LCD HD monitor with 1,366 x 768 resolution, displays what? A Plasma is 1024 x 768 displays what&nbsp;?&nbsp; Where does sending the display 720P (stays digital in the DVD player &amp; sent digital) become double scaling in a digital display that has a resolution of 768&nbsp; vs sending the display 480P....which almost is doubling-scaling ? I''m still learing about this (my Toshiba CRT HDTV is a 1080I display-but according to the ISF guys, the max resolution of my set is 950).</div><BR><div>Digital displays are a whole different animal.........I''m hungry for info....plan on buying 1080P LCD maybe next year....1:1 mapping etc.........</div><BR><div>So a 768 display does what with 720P info (FOX-HD for example).....what does a 768P display do with 1080I (ABC-HD, ESPN-HD) ?</div><BR><div>Trying to understand............</div><BR><div>&nbsp;</div><BR><div>Barney</div><BR>

[MDRiggs]

<BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE BORDER=1><TR><TD><b>Date:</b> 12/29/2006 6:53:03 PM <b>Author:</b> Barney<BR><div></div><BR><div>MDRiggs, please explain, LCD HD monitor with 1,366 x 768 resolution, displays what?</TD></TR></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></div><BR><div>Displays 1,366 x 768 (WXGA).</div><BR><div><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE BORDER=1><TR><TD>A Plasma is 1024 x 768 displays what?</TD></TR></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></div><BR><div>Displays 1,024 x 768.</div><BR><div><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE BORDER=1><TR><TD>Where does sending the display 720P (stays digital in the DVD player; sent digital) become double scaling in a digital display that has a resolution of 768 vs sending the display 480P....which almost is doubling-scaling?</TD></TR></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></div><BR><div>DVD''s normally are 480i (they can be 480p, but this is rare). So with an HD display, the first step will always be to deinterlace the signal to 480p. Let''s assume our DVD player has an excellent deinterlacer, so we deinterlace in the player and now have a choice of feeding 480p to the display or scaling the signal to 720p. If your display is anything other than 854 x 480 (480p) or 1,280 x 720 (720p), it will have to scale 480p and 720p signals to its native resolution. If you feed it 480p from your DVD player, the original signal is scaled just once, in the display, directly to the native display resolution. If you feed it 720p, the original signal is scaled twice, first in the player from 480p to 720p and again in the display from 720p to whatever the display''s native resolution happens to be. That might not seem like a big deal until you stop to consider that because of the mathematical relationships between the various resolutions involved, each scaling yields a completely new set of pixels -- no pixels are preserved in any of the possible operations.</div><BR><div><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE BORDER=1><TR><TD>I''m still learing about this (my Toshiba CRT HDTV is a 1080I display-but according to the ISF guys, the max resolution of my set is 950).</TD></TR></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></div><BR><div>CRTs tend to be a little "smudgey", for lack of a better term.</div><BR><div><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE BORDER=1><TR><TD>So a 768 display does what with 720P info (FOX-HD for example).....what does a 768P display do with 1080I (ABC-HD, ESPN-HD) ?</TD></TR></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></div><BR><div>It scales 720p signals to its native resolution. Given a 1080i signal, it has to deinterlace and then scale. Strictly speaking, by the way, there''s no such animal as 768p, just progressive displays with 768 pixel rows and various numbers of pixel columns.</div><BR>